Name: Geoffrey W DeVore
City/State/Country: Lancaster, Oh USA
IP Address: 64.12.116.196

Comments

A lot of things went wrong on Monday. I'm not going to get into the Blame game which usually solves nothing. I will say that the hostage-taker was releasing the tourists, he the hostage-taker was living up to his end of the bargain. The situation went down hill when he found out that he would not have his job back. Here we have a heavily armed man being told his job, career, life was for all intents and purposes over. Now should we all be sitting around and having great debates as to why this happened?

Name: Gemini K.
City/State/Country: Michigan, U.S.A.
IP Address: 99.190.82.4

Comments

An embarrassment to all Filipinos who live and work in a foreign country. Is a tragedy that they could prevented from happening. Is our country totally hopeless to change? Are we stuck in this bad screwed-up state? My husband always wants to travel there with my daughter but I fear for their safety. The last time my husband went there he got robbed by pickpockets. Terrible huh!

Name: Edward. H
City/State/Country: Shenzhen, China
IP Address: 219.133.170.98

Comments

SO SHAME!!! Aquino III!!! The president of Philippines!!! During such a day- DAY OF NATIONAL MOURNING FOR 8 TOURISTS DEAD-declared and signed by yourself, under the eyes of the world, you still keep your smile on face. It DOES NOT show whether you are happy or something. It DOES show HOW COLD-BLOODED you are!

Name: H L
City/State/Country: Sacramento, California
IP Address: 91.108.116.202

Comments

This embarrassing tragedy goes to show over and over again that the Philippines is still at it's infancy stage in handling such situations and that it is still an uncivilized and a barbaric country in spite of its numerous transformations.

Name: William Richardson
City/State/Country: British
IP Address: 202.136.185.146

Comments

I live with my Filipina wife and 4 kids in the Philippines. We are constantly aware of the police and what they are capable of. I am proud of the people of the Philippines because of the corruption and devastation they endure at the hands of all the corrupt officials. The police officer, who kidnapped the bus was earning less than the domestic helper earns in Singapore or Hong Kong. what else is there to say apart from I pay tax in the Philippines, yet I am not aware where the tax is spent or whose pockets it may line. The new President has an arduous task ahead, however his countrymen need to see benefits now rather than later. The Philippines will be a great republic, of this I have no doubt. Its just that I don't know if I will still be alive when it happens....

Name: Mario
City/State/Country: Cavite
IP Address: 180.193.47.70

Comments

This is the result of not selecting Binay as DILG chief. With Binay at the helm leading the way on how things would be done, loss of lives could have been avoided. Binay is a leader respected by uniformed personnel. He could have done much much better. It's not yet too late for him to lead the DILG despite oppositions from some quarters who are perhaps afraid that he may perform really good that could send him to Malacañang 6 years from now. Binay is the man...who can save the country from more embarrassments. Give Binay a chance. Give our country a chance. Walang palakasan...

Name: unforgivable
City/State/Country: china
IP Address: 116.252.192.199

Comments

Policemen in hellish Philippines may just be trained to be hijackers, or act like a mouse just to prove they are made of mouse sh*it from hell. Even their come-from-hell president smiled when seeing the bus. Sh*t policemen and Philippines students happily took photos in front of the bus, said they have done a good job. Hell, I don't believe your president of hellish Philippines is not from hell.

Name: michael rothery
City/State/Country: UK
IP Address: 86.189.5.125

Comments

I watched this very sad and distressing event in Manila as it unfolded live on CNN, but didn't we have a similar situation here in the UK only three weeks ago where a maniac killed innocent people, we have SWAT Teams we have SAS we have everything here but it did not stop the killing. Your Police did a great job they put their own lives at risk, they should be congratulated they got most of the people out alive it is easy to criticise after the event another scenario by Special Forces may not have got anybody out alive, investigate of course learn from the lessons but here in the UK we lock up corrupt police officers regularly and so do many other countries in the world, the Philippines and its people are wonderful and I cannot wait to visit your amazing country.

Name: WDC
City/State/Country: California
IP Address: 75.38.64.124

Comments

Don't sack those people that were just doing their work, sack those officials who are in charged of the hostage crisis. Why blame some of the SWAT Teams and other Law Enforcement Officials if they didn't have the proper training and equipment to face the situation. Folks, these bi#ches (Filipino Politicians) are playing games again to cover their as#es by pointing to each other, they should investigate themselves?

Name: Raul Lacuna
City/State/Country: Vancouver, BC Canada
IP Address: 24.87.50.127

Comments

It's the stupidity and cowardice of Filipinos like the one displayed by the soldiers handling (or rather mishandling) of the recent hijacking that makes me lie when asked where I'm originally from. I tell them that I am a Malaysian or Indonesian national and never a Filipino. I'm so glad I'm out of that chaotic country.

Name: GFJBHEDF
City/State/Country: Hercules
IP Address: 76.103.7.246

Comments

Blaming the media is scapegoating. The media was doing what RP freedom of the press always does, covering the news and reporting accordingly without bias. The PNP did a lousy job. Thanks to media coverage, the ineptness of the PNP was revealed. Which is why there is call to prohibit live media coverage, unless it is edited to make a bungling PNP look good before it's broadcast. That is a no no. That is not freedom of the press. That is bias journalism. It is good a dumb PNP is showed live uncensored as is. It showed the weapon PNP is short of, it lacks, is psychological warfare, not more bang bang power, as some lawmaker try to feed the public.

Name: Dragonslayer
City/State/Country: Briarcity
IP Address: 74.254.86.66

Comments

Maybe we'll all feel better if we admit and accept our country's true situation: That there are clear indications of incompetence, below par performance, and untold shortcomings everywhere, in every place of employment in both the public and private sectors. Yes, there is no doubt that, at least according to our own standards, we have good educational institutions and other facilities designed to train workers; to be "armed and ready" to meet and handle unusual exigencies, however, in spite of that claim, consequences of improper, lack of, or inadequate training always comes out as some sort of rude awakening when some similar tragedy and snafus such as this one happens especially when it involves loss of precious lives.

Name: Marie
City/State/Country: Batangas
IP Address: 80.109.30.155

Comments

It's easy to say yes to the demands of Rolando Mendoza if that would have saved the lives of all the tourists. Anyway he was to retire in 2 years time. It's all over now, the damage has been done, bad image for our country and for our president. But, is it necessary to publish the criticisms about "ngiting aso" raw ang president? that should not be! My goodness. We know that our president is not really happy about what the policemen did and for the death of 8 tourists.

Name: ROMEO CASILAGAN
City/State/Country: Cph. Denmark
IP Address: 80.72.152.135

Comments

Dyos ko, nakakahiya itong mga Pulis patola natin, magagaling lang ang mga ito mangotong,mag salvage, mag torture, mag hulidup, mag cover-up at marami pang katarantaduhan! We cant go out, it was so embarrassing ´kasi lalo na dito sa Europe.Wala tayongmukhang maipakita sa mundo!Comment ko lang. They look like monkey cops! It hurts me to comment like this coz I love the Philippines.

Name: JRH
City/State/Country: mtl can
IP Address: 173.178.222.147

Comments

The crisis management team (police, SWAT) failed miserably in the performance of its duties. Today, I just got back from gym where friends of other nationalities inquired & asked me about this recent incident or accident of the failed hostage-taking fiasco that resulted in the unnecessary death of innocent tourists from Hong Kong. I tried my best to explain that it was not actually intentional that it happened. Several factors contributed to this dismal disaster but overall I had the impression that my simple explanations was not convincing enough. They said that it was a simple demand not involving a lot of money. This my friends are the impression others see it. Now, in the eye of the world the Phils & Filipinos are perceived as a barbaric and unruly country. This is really really sad.

Name: teresita schobert
City/State/Country: san francisco Ca. U
IP Address: 76.218.115.160

Comments

All the police who did the rescue were unprepared from the beginning. They should have used reverse-psychology tactics. The negotiators, obviously were not psychologists. The ombudsman should have given in to his demand to be reinstated. Anyway he was not really a bad policeman! It cost 8 innocent lives against 1 demand. The court system in the Philippines is really bad. I cant blame the hostage man, I had many cases civil cases against my relatives. its been 12 years now and my cases are still on-going. I don't agree with what he did, but the blame should be addressed at the courts and ombudsman too.

Name: Manuel C. Diaz
City/State/Country: San Juan Metro Manil
IP Address: 114.108.192.10

Comments

Hostage handling of Islas de Ladrones Police can only be described as STUPID, IDIOTIC AND MORONIC

Name: Jotorr
City/State/Country: NY
IP Address: 24.186.48.51

Comments

I don't even know where to start but it was the picture of worst incompetence of the police and the leaders. It was a major embarrassment and will be remembered forever. Now another question- how did the president NOYNOY handle the case? Where was he? He should have intervened, he should have been visible since day one ACCESSIBLE even to the Chinese leaders at least by phone and engage in any communication. BUT he was nowhere to be found, nowhere to be contacted, did not have a clue. I think I have a clue- either he was hiding under the bed, under the skirts of the nuns or his sisters during the crisis. Is this the kind of leader that we need? Not able to deal crisis like a MAN? That's what happens when you have Mama's boy president.

Name: Vinay Raj Lim
City/State/Country: Bangladesh
IP Address: 123.49.32.232

Comments

The police bungle up at rescuing the hostages is accepted fact. The police are useless. The worst part of the whole scandal is why did the on scene commander allow public and police alike to take photos in front of the bus?? That's pure PR disaster. It shows pure lack of common decency, insensibility towards the victims. There are also no flowers or candles on the scene to show condolences to the victims. Last not the least - Philippine has refuse a joint investigation with HK authority - which means - which only increase the mistrust - that this investigation is nothing but a cover-up. What the Philippine authority can best do now is to allow the joint investigation, find those officers responsible for bungle up and prosecute them.

Name: Felix
City/State/Country: Daly City, CA,
IP Address: 71.135.101.119

Comments

Its a shame the police can not even tie a knot on the door of the bus but they know how to tie a knot on the private parts of a helpless suspect.

Name: villedeville
City/State/Country: Toronto, Canada
IP Address: 173.34.1.209

Comments

One thing is very certain: If this unfortunate tragedy happened during Gloria Arroyo's term, all those "activists" will be blaming her and demanding for her immediate resignation or expulsion.

Name: lee buyagan
City/State/Country: ksa
IP Address: 188.248.190.68

Comments

I urge the Hongkong nationals not to blame innocent Filipinos (specially to all domestic helpers there) due to the unsuccessful development of the hostage drama. And if ever there will be, try to put your anger on the Philippine lawmaker caught in your airport with illegal drugs. Put him in jail at the soonest possible time and let him be rotten there.

Name: mockingmaya
City/State/Country: taft avenue, manila
IP Address: 67.181.17.25

Comments

Only crackpot followers of corrupt men & women in uniforms will castigate Ombudsman Mercedita Gutierrez' character & courage "to pursue justice by cultivating virtue & reasoning for the common good." Justice Gutierrez after all is not a fanatic follower of the former President Arroyo. Fanatics & blind critics argue that Justice Gutierrez should resign for the death of a corrupt police officer & innocent tourists. The fanatics demand revolved around maximizing profits & economic output or the "mere accumulation of things." The fanatics blindly ignored the quality of justice & education of Filipinos, the integrity of public servants, & love of country. A great statesman once said that "in order to reverse injustices, it's necessary to challenge the complacent way of life..."

Name: Mila Donday
City/State/Country: Belgium
IP Address: 213.118.206.115

Comments

Ang mahirap sa Pilipinas, puro hambog, walang kwinta mga polis,, hinde humingi ng million ang tao, at alam ko mabuting polis kaya lang nya nagawa dahil hinde pair ang resolta sa kaso nya,, kasalanan lahat sa polis, at mga bwsit pang polis pati kapatid at familya dinala pa sa presento,, kaming mga pilipina dito sa belgium galit sa mga polis, hoy mga polis, wag lang kau porma palagi,, porkit may baril kau,, para sino na kau,, hine natin masisi ang mga NPA mabuti pa sila kay sa mga walang hiyang mga polis sa Pinas.

Name: mockingmaya
City/State/Country: taft avenue, manila
IP Address: 67.181.17.25

Comments

"Catholic Church shares blame for hostage crisis..." When religious groups supported the stolen presidency & corrupt regime of Gloria Arroyo, they succumbed to the perpetuation of injustices: social, political, economic, judicial, et cetera. The Church becomes a source of political patronage, enriched by the gifts of political patrons that will outdo the emperors & modern dictators lavishness of their table. Some Filipino scholars or intellectuals who flaunt their academic credentials awarded by their Catholic, Jesuits, Dominican, & other religious mentors have forgotten the following passages: "He (the emperor or the dictator) doesn't not bring you liberty by casting you in prison, but treats you with respect within his palace & thus makes you his slave."

Name: Chuck
City/State/Country: Marikina City
IP Address: 112.204.132.89

Comments

The repercussions of overturning a court decision should be obvious to everyone. Giving in to a disgruntled law enforcer would mean EVERY decision handed down by our courts could be questioned and challenged AGAIN thus undermining the judicial system, hence they said they would study the case and give its decision in 10 days. A quick review given the slow judicial system we have. As for the policemen that responded, the hostage taker had all the advantage because visibility inside the bus was terrible while the hostage taker had a clear view of the police officers outside via TV.

Name: pauli
City/State/Country: uk
IP Address: 178.103.126.182

Comments

I believe the police were right not to give in to his demands. Reinstating a man convicted of corruption would hardly enhance the reputation of your government. I was shocked that the bus driver abandoned his passengers. Once it became clear that the siege would end in bloodshed, why were the police not ordered to shoot the gunman while he was in full view? I was shocked by the live broadcasting. The gunman became agitated by coverage on the TV. Why was this not blacked out? I believe the Hong Kong authorities over reacted to this tragic, but one-off, incident. This whole fiasco was started by one disaffected policeman, not a highly trained terrorist organisation. That said, I guess many must wonder at how the Philippine authorities would cope with a more serious threat.

Name: ONE UP
City/State/Country: GOTHAM CITY
IP Address: 74.66.135.64

Comments

It is basic that when there is hostage taking, the complete layout and details of the place (layout) where the incident is taking place must be made available to the assault team before they make any move. No one goes to a war zone without the benefit of a map or knowledge of the terrain. In the case of the Quirino Grandstand incident, the assault team had no clue and no plan on how to enter the bus without being noticed. 11 hours were wasted. Nobody knew who was directing the operation on the ground.

Name: ONE UP
City/State/Country: GOTHAM CITY
IP Address: 74.66.135.64

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CONTINUE 1/2 Malacañang people were conspicuously absent to intervene or even mitigate/ reduce the level of anxiety and tension. This hostage taking was not about hostage for ransom but rather a desperate attempt by a police officer who felt he was wronged. This was not the first incident of hostage taking in a bus but the first one was resolved without spilling blood. When will this country ever learn?

Name: ONE UP
City/State/Country: GOTHAM CITY
IP Address: 74.66.135.64

Comments

The first impulse is to condemn the action of hostage taker, Capt. Rolando Mendoza. This man wants to redeem his name and he thought he was unjustly terminated by the Ombudsman. The Justice Department or the Ombudsman would have intervened by reassuring the hostage taker that his case will be reviewed on condition that he release the hostages and that he should surrender peacefully; moreover, to guarantee his personal safety. This was a case of a 11 hour stand-off where higher authorities could have taken the lead to prevent possible bloodshed.

Name: ONE UP
City/State/Country: GOTHAM CITY
IP Address: 74.66.135.64

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1/2 continue.. Sadly, they could not be reached. This man Mendoza comes from a family of police officers. Now this family harbors ill feelings against the government and the police for the painful death of a family member. The whole Quirino Grandstand hostage drama was witnessed around the world and was the President of the country watching or still asleep? Incommunicado?

Name: Lotus
City/State/Country: Orlando, Fl
IP Address: 97.102.183.69

Comments

PNP is a perversion, they lack coordination and training. The SWAT team is like a horse that has staples in its eyes that they cant see the hostages. However, its typical for the PNP to give orders to shoot and kill without hesitation...

Name: jango rivera
City/State/Country: edmonton canada.
IP Address: 198.161.203.6

Comments

Its a big DISGRACE to us FILIPINOS. Why is it that a relieved police still have a gun to use in that hostage? So it means that even those police officers are already sacked from their duties, they still own a gun? And a high powered gun? An M16 rifle? What a stupid police policy, only in the Philippines......................

Name: Phil Researcher
City/State/Country: Los Angeles, CA
IP Address: 96.251.65.123

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Re_ Inspector Mendoza One of the culprits in this fiasco is the turtle system of Justice. The case against Mendoza's Mobile patrol happened sometime in 2008.. A certain stun named Christian Kalaw filed a case of extortion and police maltreatment against 5 policemen .. It is possible that Mendoza did not participate in this extortion.. The problem is these were policemen under his supervision. It took them 2 years and it is still pending as Mendoza filed a motion for Reconsideration. Decide the case with finality. That is one of the solutions here.. The media should do an investigation now .. just count the case pending against policemen and how long have these cases been in the dockets.. Masyadong mabagal ang lakad ng husticia sa RP.

Name: Phil Researcher
City/State/Country: Los Angeles, CA
IP Address: 96.251.65.123

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RE: News Headline. Dacer Daughters reject House Arrest for Sen Lacson... There is no law which exempts Senators or Congressmen from arrest for Capital Crimes e.g. Murder.. Sometimes a Judge might Order a malefactor to stay in the Hospital, if say he has a heart ailment. Sen. Lacson is in perfect health , he is charged with a crime punishable by death thus non-bailable. There is absolutely no justification to place him under custody of the senate while his murder case is pending. Especially now that he is a fugitive from justice. Is there another law for senators and a harsher law for ordinary people in RP?

Name: WDC
City/State/Country: California
IP Address: 75.38.64.124

Comments

Noynoy will send delegations to Hong Kong to explain about the hostage incidents. Just a waste of time, the Philippine government don't need to explain anything, just look at the footage, bunch of incompetent cops with out supervision, lack of trainings and proper equipments. These seven victims might be saved if we have some priests or psychiatrists doing the negotiations, but no, instead these IDIOT cops stormed the bus without any proper planning. Damage is done Pres Noynoy, what are you people do now to protect the public? This is should be your main goal, not to try to clean-up the government stupid mess. The whole world is watching and they are tired of the IDIOCY that you people are showing in our home country.

Name: ericpp
City/State/Country: manila
IP Address: 89.207.118.35

Comments

Sana ibinigay nalang nila ang demand ng kapwa nila polis naayos pa ang gulo bakit kasi gusto lagi kasi mapatay ang ng hohostage dahil lang ba sa medalya kaya wala ng halaga ang buhay ng nakakarami at kapwa

Name: anthony z
City/State/Country: las vegas, nevada
IP Address: 207.200.116.12

Comments

The hostage taking at the Quirino grandstand scene was marred by incompetent hostage negotiators, police, police swat teams, news media, politicians and army group plus the ineptitude of a lot of politicians who should have pooled together their intelligence in order to pacify the raging lunatic inside the bus who was police captain Mendoza. The lack of hi tech equipment also factored in the collapse of the negotiations. Is is but a common sense that when one is angry, the remedy is to pacify Mendoza, the negotiators should have offered a better deal and not capture permitted the brother of Mendoza to be arrested. President Aquino should prevent this for ever happening again because it is a disgrace to our country and formed an elite team of experts with stateside training.

Name: Pomaikai
City/State/Country: Honolulu, Hawaii
IP Address: 66.91.201.8

Comments

Per ex-mayor Alfredo Lim the police were ready to give-in to his demand but shots rang out. Why not give-in earlier? Is this an excuse? Per Ombudsman, she can't give in to his demand due to laws and ethics. MY GULAY, their dealing with a irrational person in a tense situation is a no win for the gov't. what laws and ethics? It is about common sense. Agree to all his demand, he release all his hostage, he gets out of the bus, handcuff him and tell him he is under arrest for hostage taking.

Name: edwin polic
City/State/Country: vancouver
IP Address: 206.116.71.61

Comments

It is very obvious that Philippine Police force are the most fearsome people in the Philippine government. They don't care about the lives of innocent victims when dealing to hostage crisis. The SWAT, means to me as; SAYANG WALANG ALAM TALAGA.

Name: Phil Researcher
City/State/Country: LA County, CA
IP Address: 96.251.65.123

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RE: Hostage Fiasco--There was a news item this morning that the Ombudsman was bout to grant the demand of the late Sr. Inspector Mendoza, unfortunately it was too late as shooting had begun.. That again would have been a wrong move.. giving up to demands of hostage takers.. If you review the number of policemen under investigation. Some of them might resort to hostage taking so the Ombudsman will take action on their demands. Just review your hearing procedures and dismiss those policemen immediately with finality so they don't resort to hostage taking as their cases have not been decided with finality.

Name: Phil Researcher
City/State/Country: LA County
IP Address: 96.251.65.123

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RE: Police procedures in the hostage taking episode --First there should have been a yellow tape prohibiting UZI (usisiro, meron bystanders, kibitzers). There were so many people disrupting the police operation. (SWAT) means Special Weapons and Tactics in that hostage taking some internet bloggers said SWAT means (Sorry Wala Akong Training).. Kidding aside, there are so many police superintendents , police generals. Please give proper training and equipment to your people. Some members didn't have Kevlar vests. It was a Keystone cop operation . The bad thing was 8 people were killed.

Name: bototo
City/State/Country: capiz
IP Address: 99.172.147.173

Comments

Pulis kasi natin magaling mang harass/intimidate sa mga civilians. Pagtutuong criminal ang kaharap... Para silang mga aso, buntot naka suklip sa pu*et. They call themselves "Manila's finest", not anymore. they are just a bunch of... YOU KNOW. I hope this incident will in anyway serve a lesson again not only to our police, but our our country as a whole. MABUHAY KAYONG MGA PULIS... mamatay ang mga hostage na, hindi pulis.

Name: Jun Gagarin
City/State/Country: Jersey City, NJ
IP Address: 74.0.75.218

Comments

Giving in the hostage taker's demand will become a precedent. I agree with Mr. Adriano Aguila's comments. The responding policeman are obviously ill-equipped and ill-trained. This incident brought shame on our country and to us Filipinos especially living overseas.

Name: Manuel T Salang
City/State/Country: Virginia, USA
IP Address: 205.201.245.50

Comments

Lack of training and preparedness in handling by policemen and leaders. Experience hostage negotiator should have handled and diffused the situation. Had this aggrieved person been assured of having his complaint looked into, may have saved the innocent lives rather carnage of tourists. The tactic of even hauling members of his family with the unrestrained media broadcasting it live increased the tension. Just hope that lessons learned from the fatal mistakes help prevent the loss of innocent lives in the future.

Name: bon basije
City/State/Country: jacksonville, fl
IP Address: 98.82.224.181

Comments

In a nutshell, what the police, the media, and the kibbitzers lacked during the hostage crisis was plain common sense. Regarding the president's amazing remarks I would put it in the most stupid category and hopefully, for his own sake, be more careful in his future pronouncements. This is a most regrettable and needless loss of innocent lives and this writer personally extend his heartfelt apology to the bereaved.

Name: jeje
City/State/Country: Sydney
IP Address: 124.168.25.176

Comments

What else can you expect? This happens only in the Philippines. It's part of our culture. hahaha. Thanks to Noynoy, the PNP, and Venus Raj. You make us proud because of your bloopers. Hahaha

Name: Francis Miranda
City/State/Country: Vietnam
IP Address: 123.28.158.114

Comments

The hostage drama is a very "hot issue' because it's new but then, just like many "hot issues" in the past, this will subside and disappear as if nothing happened. After a while, nobody cares anymore and the erring officials will continue sitting in their chairs comfortably. No positive actions taken and no more complaints. Hence, no change will happen. This is how it is done in the Philippines over and over again. Wala man lang bang isang matinong government official na mamuno tungo sa pagbabago? Mr. President, please do something. Remove the incompetents from government service.

Name: ERICPP
City/State/Country: PHILIPPINES TAGUIG
IP Address: 89.207.118.35

Comments

Kawawa naman ang mga pangkaraniwang tao sa mga taong may mga baril sino ang tunay na terorista polis ba oh ang masasamang tao? Palagay ko pareho sila kasi nakakapatay sila ng mga hostages. Mainit kasi ang mga ulo hindi ginagamit ang puso.

Name: Tagaguhit
City/State/Country: OFW
IP Address: 65.49.2.184

Comments

Don Tonto: You need to learn about Chinese culture and politics. The only good thing that they have is media blackout, they have more fiascos, corruption and inept policemen than the Philippines does. Have you heard about the killings in the school and in the train by some desperate Chinese and how about a Chinese local government official who can afford to send his son to Europe to study. In most parts of China road accidents are the worst, the policemen and the ambulance will arrive after 1 hour or more and nobody will help you while you bleed to death.

Name: JRH
City/State/Country: mtl can
IP Address: 173.178.222.147

Comments

What went wrong? a SWAT team with no bullet-vest, helmet, gasmasks, two-way radio & no coordination whatsoever. When a shot rang everybody just started blasting away. It's Murphy's Law. This special tactical unit were rookies & no experience to handle the hostage taking. They mishandled this situation badly. 8 dead & 12 injured for the record. They were totally incompetent & ill-equipped to do the job. The media, on the other hand, wanted badly to get the scoop first & in way contributed to this fiasco. Just like our govt, no checks & balances & totally chaotic. Heads should roll at PNP cuz they made a big boo-boo.

Name: E.Enriquez
City/State/Country: Sydney, Australia
IP Address: 220.244.194.54

Comments

It's just so very disappointing this Mendoza hostage outcome and the performance shown by the authorities. It confirms my usual advice to Australians thinking of going to the Philippines to not trust at all, as a general rule, any Philippine policeman.

Name: deo
City/State/Country: flour city
IP Address: 67.240.217.75

Comments

In the news: "Four Police Officers Suspended". Now the potential trouble is four-fold. Or Mendoza was just an isolated case of a good cop that went bad.

Name: leo
City/State/Country: U.S.
IP Address: 75.27.118.209

Comments

I am a Filipino/American and was stunned by the way the situation was handled. Knowing the international ramifications of the incident, the hostage negotiations should have been given to an elite team whose members are well trained and equipped to execute an operation like this.

Name: fil. stupid
City/State/Country: los angeles
IP Address: 75.38.21.110

Comments

Crazy..stupid ...PNP...shame..shame..

Name: deltab
City/State/Country: ug
IP Address: 216.220.216.208

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Clear shot..hindi! because any uniformed officer or ex-officer that involve in any hostage taking ay shoot to kill....for a simple reason, they should protect and not be a hostage taker. Zero tolerance when they are involved. They have the fire-power, the training, and the know how...if negotiations fail. Kaya dapat ay shoot to kill sila...Pinas should have a law impose, just for the military, police or any agency that use firearms.. So many clear shots..but why? well, it was the same police organization..have another agency handle the situations...just think about it? if a civilian involve in a hostage taking...shots would have been delivered promtly....with less casualty..just my opinion!!!

Name: fil. stupid
City/State/Country: los angeles
IP Address: 75.38.21.110

Comments

crazy..stupid ...pnp...shame..shame..

Name: Proud not to be a Pinoy
City/State/Country: Outside Philippines
IP Address: 70.26.66.85

Comments

I really love the part when two cops almost made their way into the bus through the emergency exit and both ran back out upon being shot at. I guess rescuing the hostages were the farthest thing from their minds.

Name: Edward
City/State/Country: Las Vegas
IP Address: 98.160.174.84

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Everyone is asking where your president was and even why he could not be reach on the phone during this incident, HE WAS IN BED WITH HIS GAY LOVER, and smoking a white owl.

Name: Maabig ya kaaro
City/State/Country: Dagupan City
IP Address: 180.191.42.20

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The current topic wasn’t that balance it gave importance to HK Tourist and bashed the Phil. Govt and Police for such embarrassing incident. It did not give credit to Media/TV crews who broadcast without censor the whole situation. Furthermore, it did not relate nor compare to other hostage incidents around the world where numbers of dead are enormously higher than that in Pinas! And Most of all The Editorial has forgotten that in Somalia there are at least 81 Pinoy Seamen still held HOSTAGE! Its seems clear that those HK Tourist are more important than those Pinoy Seamen held hostage in Somalia. Somalia wasn’t being bashed for her Piracy & kidnapping activities! LINK

Name: mockingmaya
City/State/Country: taft avenue, manila
IP Address: 67.181.17.25

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Why should Filipino good policemen give the terrorist or a fanatic police officer a momentum to dictate who is gonna live or die? It's easy for some Filipino hypocrites to castigate the less-perfect outcome of the hostage taking crisis in Manila. The 11-hour negotiation is long enough for the rebel police officer to form his own strategy or to change his mind. Like a chess player, the brave Filipino policemen didn't have the luxury to be on the defensive or to wait & wonder what will a rebel police officer will do next. They had to seize the momentum. It seems that some corrupt men & women in uniforms are using the politics of fanaticism to undermine the present administration. A blitzkrieg?

Name: A. Poli
City/State/Country: Anywhere
IP Address: 64.229.221.151

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Palace now starting to point blame to the previous Arroyo regime for the hostage disaster. LINK ...........Look i will say this again - enough of putting blame on others. The buck stops to those who are responsible now! You apply for that job - you are elected because you said you can do better. We the people believed you and so we voted. Now show us that you really can do it better, otherwise you are all just the same as the people you are blaming. Quit your job if you can not do it properly. Grrrrrr!!!!!

Name: Vinay Raj Lim
City/State/Country: Bangladesh
IP Address: 123.49.32.232

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Police bungle up - that's given - and a accepted fact. But where is the basic human decency ?? Police and schoolgirls were taking photos in front of the site of massacre and smiling - is this not the lowest kind of behavior ??

Name: A. Poli
City/State/Country: Anywhere
IP Address: 64.229.221.151

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This bungled hostage drama shown live on television is not new. We have seen this before on TFC channel overseas. Once there was a child being held hostage and the cops shoot the hostage taker which in turn killed the hostage child. All shown live on TFC. The scene was so disgusting I never bother to renew my subscription to that news channel preferring instead to read the news from the web. I would only watch Filipino live news very very occasionally. I realized then that way Filipino media is dispensed is bad for your health. They over sensationalize to the point of being irresponsible. Having free press does not mean irresponsible press. :(

Name: Jotorr
City/State/Country: NY
IP Address: 24.186.48.51

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Again, this is a high profile crisis situation and just like major calamities in the past and other crises. our beloved leaders are NOWHERE TO BE FOUND. Again they only show up with their big smiles during elections. Why am I not surprised. Most of our leaders have a legendary reputation of being LOUSY. And where is PNOY? Ring, ring,ring..."this is the Chinese president, pick up the phone and talk"...The people again got what they bargained for...a lousy president. A mama's boy who could and would not deal with any crisis situation. He's always surrounded by the comfort of the sisters who are more manly enough than him.

Name: mockingmaya
City/State/Country: taft avenue, manila
IP Address: 67.181.17.25

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Some crackpot & hypocrites will continue to blame the brave Filipino policemen for the gruesome unintended consequences of the hostage taking crisis in Manila. The objective of the good policemen was to avoid casualties; they sought to achieve a peaceful outcome through psychological tactic or warfare, if you will, but remember that the rebel police officer was aware of the psychological game; it's his craft to publicize & announce his presence or "propaganda by deed." Moreover, the rebel police officer sought to demoralize his adversaries to give his demands by terror or panic. You don't need to be a scholar to comprehend the objective of the rebel police officer: to polarize public sentiment or to bring people or hostile or frustrated police officers into his camp.

Name: NPM
City/State/Country: San Diego, CA
IP Address: 72.130.167.112

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All I can say by watching the videos/pictures, "SWAT"/snipers had plenty of opportunity to take the hostage taker down, or at least incapacitate him in clear view. He even talked to the negotiators at close range. They could have quickly ended the crisis. That's only what I think.

Name: A. Poli
City/State/Country: Anywhere
IP Address: 64.229.177.186

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Who is Magtibay? And why is he allowed to go on leave after that 8 dead bus hostage incident? Allowing him to go on "leave" is like giving this officer a vacation for a job not done properly! .....higher bosses should be the one to quit or summarily dismissed for job incompetence. But then, again, he/she might become ala Mendoza. :) .....give us a break, his higher ups or bosses should be the one to get fired.

Name: mockingmaya
City/State/Country: taft avenue, manila
IP Address: 67.181.17.25

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Filipino hypocrites & crackpot critics will continue to romaticize the hostage taking crisis in Manila as worst than a natural disaster. Well, reason dictates that Filipinos should not throw up their hands in complete despair. The problem must be addressed with institutional design, with reason, & must go beyond conventional thinking. Functional corruption, fanaticism, & carnivorous politics are considered human scourge. They will continue to destroy the lives of the Filipino people.

Name: Marie
City/State/Country: Batangas
IP Address: 80.109.30.155

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Rolando got many frustrations and felt hopeless in his case. Many people today like Rolando are not really enjoying their lives because of the condition of their minds. They constantly dwell on negative, destructive, harmful and life is out of control. They just dwell on any thought that comes. We have to understand that our lives follow our thoughts. If you think negative thoughts, then you're going to live a negative life. If you think discouraging, hopeless thoughts, can't-do-it thoughts, then your life is going to go down that exact same pathway. That's why we have to take captive every thought and renew our minds with the Word of God on a daily basis. Don't let those self-defeating thoughts linger in your mind.

Name: mockingmaya
City/State/Country: taft avenue, manila
IP Address: 67.181.17.25

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Filipino hypocrites & cracpot critics will continue to romaticize the hostage taking crisis in Manila as worst than natural disater. Well, reason dictates that Filipinos should not throw up their hands in complete despair. The problem must be addressed with institutional design, with reason, & must go beyond conventional thinking. Functional corruption, fanaticism, & carnivorous politics are considered human scourge. They will continue to destroy the lives of the Filipino people.

Name: Marie
City/State/Country: Batangas
IP Address: 80.109.30.155

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Siguro na-fed up na ang grupo ng police kaya nirapido na at nag-hagis na ng tear gas. Aba e inulan na sila at 11 hours na ba naman. Gigil na siguro at napapahiya na sa iisang nanghostage at sila naman ay sangkatutak na ka-pulisan. Pero, nakaka-awa naman din sila kasi nag-ubos rin naman ng mabahabang oras at litong-lito na rin sa pangyayari. Ginawa rin naman nila ang lahat ng makakaya at yon ang kanilang nakayanan. Hindi lang naman sila ang dapat sisihin. Ang media ang may problema at ang negotiator at ang ombudsman. Kung mahusay ang sinabi nila at ipinakita, wala sigurong kaharasang mangyayari baka sumuko rin sa mga pulis. Ginawa lang ng pulis ang nangyari dahil may pinapuputukan na sa loob ng bus.

Name: Marie
City/State/Country: Batangas
IP Address: 80.109.30.155

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Ang mga kabaro naman ni Arroyo ay huag ng mag-magaling o kaya ay mag-malinis. Ang kanilang administration ay sangkatutak na mga kapalpakan noong kanilang kapanahunan. Puros patayang mga naganap sa mga journalists ay hindi nila maresolba. Ang masamang pangyayari sa ngayon ay bahagi pa ng kapalpakan ng dating administration. Mga pulis pa nila halos lahat at pati nanghostage ay panahon pa nila nanungkulan. Silang mga mangugurakot, Kapag kurakot presidente kurakot din ang tauhan. Sila-sila pa rin. Wala sana ang hostage taker kung maganda ang palakad ni Gloria noong araw sa mga pulis. Huag sisihin si P.Noy sa kanilang kabuhungan noong araw. Bahagi pa iyan ng masamang palakad ni Gloria noong araw. Maraming kurakot na pulis noong panahon niya.

Name: mockingmaya
City/State/Country: taft avenue, manila
IP Address: 67.181.17.25

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The gavel-to-gavel sensational & manufacturing of hostage taking crises in Manila received far more attention than assaults in Tibet, Darfur, Chenhnya, Congo, Bosnia, and other reprehensible violation of human rights in different parts of the world. It seems that the mass murders & terrorist acts that occur elsewhere are less significant than the failures of Filipino policemen to protect the lives of innocent tourists. You are a bunch of hypocrites---indeed.

Name: Rolaz
City/State/Country: Pilipinas
IP Address: 112.198.79.67

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Some posters say they were ASHAMED of the country because on how gov't mishandled the Hostage crisis! Being a Filipino, I’m not ashamed, let’s face it, NOT all Filipino are like, ex capt Mendoza, There is no such thing as Perfect Military Solution to Hostage Crisis. Even USA, Russia, Germany, Israel with all their high tech military equipt. has their own FAILURES! Accept the truth that PNP lacks appropriate training; provide solution to this problem, so that next time around they are ready to face hostage takers. Bashing the Philippines, nor giving her black eye did NOT solve the problem, instead, it add resentments. There was indeed double standard on how they treat Philippines!

Name: Marie
City/State/Country: Batangas
IP Address: 80.109.30.155

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Ang mga kabaro naman ni Arroyo ay huag ng mag-magaling o kaya ay mag-malinis. Ang kanilang administration ay sangkatutak na mga kapalpakan noong kanilang kapanahunan. Puros patayang mga naganap sa mga journalists ay hindi nila maresolba. Ang masamang pangyayari sa ngayon ay bahagi pa ng kapalpakan ng dating administration. Mga pulis pa nila halos lahat at pati nanghostage ay panahon pa nila nanungkulan. Silang mga mangugurakot, Kapag kurakot presidente kurakot din ang tauhan. Sila-sila pa rin. Wala sana ang hostage taker kung maganda ang palakad ni Gloria noong araw sa mga pulis. Huag sisihin si P.Noy sa kanilang kabuhungan noong araw. Bahagi pa iyan ng masamang palakad ni Gloria noong araw. Maraming kurakot na pulis noong panahon niya.

Name: Manuel C. Diaz
City/State/Country: San Juan Metro Manil
IP Address: 114.108.192.8

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To Edward of Las Big Ass 99.99% of the Police of Islas de Ladrones are not only dishonest but murderous.

Name: kevinj
City/State/Country: san jose .ca.
IP Address: 69.181.116.169

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About this hostage-taker, in the first place when they saw him walking towards the vicinity of Rizal park wearing police uniform and carrying a long firearm, since they say that he was previously charged with extortion by the ombudsman, why did nobody arrest him? What a country !!!!!

Name: Stewart
City/State/Country: LA
IP Address: 71.134.196.89

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Here is a response to ED DAVID regarding the most decorated cop that he should just get his job back and forget about his actions. If he is a good COP and he should have done it in a proper forum. This only shows that they just hand awards just to anyone. A good COP won't hostage innocent people he has vowed and taken an oath to protect and serve. Think again ED DAVID

Name: ONE UP
City/State/Country: GOTHAM CITY
IP Address: 74.66.135.64

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MOCKINGMAYA| Because you love using K-9, let me share this one to you (joke to some but a fair statement of your level of intelligence): Cop 1: Bakit po K-9 ang tawag sa malalaking aso, sir? SUPT: S'yempre, 'pag tinawag mo silang K-10, hindi na sila aso. Cop 1: Ano na sila sir? SUPT: Maliit na pusa. Hi hi hi

Name: ONE UP
City/State/Country: GOTHAM CITY
IP Address: 74.66.135.64

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DEO Ding Dong| This is a conversation between Deo and his wife (commander) caught on tape: Mrs: Kung alam ko lang, hindi sana ako nagpakasal sa iyo! ABS ka! Mr: Anong ABS? Mrs: Alak, Babae, Sugal! Mr: Eh ikaw, CBN! Mrs: CBN? Mr: Chismosa, Bungangera, Nagger! Ok lang pare ko. No need to bend, the mouth will do! Hi hi hi

Name: mockingmaya
City/State/Country: taft avenue, manila
IP Address: 67.181.17.25

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A crackpot Ateneo self-imposed scholar (One Up) & his apostles believed that the hostage taking crisis in Manila lacked the accuracy & skill of Rambo, Jackie Chan, Green Beret, Delta Force, & other Special Forces in saving the lives of the Chinese tourists. One Up & his apostles should remember that there is no such thing as a textbook or perfect scholar's execution of hostage crisis drama in Manila. Filipino hypocrites & pseudo-intellectuals should read the history of terrorism around the world. Filipino policemen are not stupid to negotiate with terrorists & cold-blooded criminals demands. To do so is to give the terrorists & criminals a platform to perpetuate their propaganda & acts of terror.

Name: ONE UP
City/State/Country: GOTHAM CITY
IP Address: 74.66.135.64

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In an attempt to ingratiate himself to Dragonslayer (the naval retiree), this MOCKINGMAYA used some naval commands (which may not be right, to wit: The Captain (Dragonslayer): abandon ship! Aye, Aye sir---an oiled-Up pelican sighted dead ahead---all engines full ahead---and man your battle stations-" I hear yeah loud and clear. NOW HEAR THIS: this man is a total moron. HIT THE DECK, this avian crazy is dangerous.

Name: Maabig ya kaaro
City/State/Country: Dagupan City
IP Address: 180.191.42.20

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Edward said: “You Filipinos are fond of walking around with your signs when an American or US GI is accused of a crime, "Yankee go Home", "Ugly American go Home" === Again the proud American racist has forgotten that around the World there is such thing as “Anti-Americanism sentiment” LINK In what place can you hear people shouting “Death to America”? LINK You’re too old to remember!

Name: Maabig ya kaaro
City/State/Country: Dagupan City
IP Address: 180.191.42.20

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Edward said: “…CALL THE US Marines, I can guarantee you that any US Marine can hit a fat man in the head with a round when he is standing still in the doorway of a bus at 100 yards.” === The proud American racist, has forgotten what happened to US Marines in Beirut, and in Somalia, the dead US Marine was paraded with his private parts being mocked by somalian by standers! And most of all, He can’t remember how the US Marines FAILED to rescue American hostages in US Embassy, Iran! Too bad you're too old that can’t remember the FAILURES of USA! Your mind has been programmed to wage hate campaign against the Philippines!

Name: Maabig ya kaaro
City/State/Country: Dagupan City
IP Address: 180.191.42.20

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Edward said: “One last comment for the day, you Filipinos are always good for a belly laugh.” === Filipinos will certainly outlive you, They're all over the World, and they will make the Last LAUGH to Edward the American racist, who live in a place, known in the world as “SIN CITY”!

Name: judy
City/State/Country: Las Vegas
IP Address: 70.180.180.37

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To the PNL Editorial: You seem to enjoy the posts of one Edward, a Pollack from Las Vegas, who continually berates, degrade, ridicule the Filipino people. Why do you allow this? There was a time when you didn't like the way a certain Nuyokboy posted in this Forum and you banned him in the Forum. Nuyokboy's posts were submitted to lighten up some of the tension that existed between the exchanges here. This Edward is just plain evil and hateful - hateful of the entire Filipino people. Are you not Filipinos in the PNL Editorial? Where is your love and respect of country and your own? I hope you warn this Edward, just like you did Nuyokboy and, if Edward does not stop his sick posts, PLEASE ban him from the Forum. Thank you.

Name: judy
City/State/Country: las Vegas
IP Address: 70.180.180.37

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To JRH: thank you for the invite but I cannot meet with you IF Edward is present. I cannot talk to a RACIST, especially one who is so prejudiced against and hates Filipinos. Good luck.

Name: deo
City/State/Country: flour city
IP Address: 67.240.217.75

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I have noticed that during the few days after the tourist bus tragedy, this PNL forum are dominated by new names. Where did you came from guys? Or are you the same critters just using another identity?

Name: 7gtg
City/State/Country: regnsk
IP Address: 24.72.90.88

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" Edward said: “Air Force with no planes, Navy with no ships, Marines with no balls, your armed forces are in business to shake down the country. So don't you people ever compare yourself with a decent country.". And your country is becoming like Saudi Arabia. Before long you will be issuing IQAMA to foreign workers. And your police will be at every overpasses checking identifications of every moving object. Fine by me I worked for years in the Arab country. it will be like home.

Name: mockingmaya
City/State/Country: taft avenue,manila
IP Address: 67.181.17.25

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One Up: Kung may asawa at mga anak ka mahiya ka. Pabasa mo ang mga sinulat mong basura na para sa seagulls: "When government creates bureaucracy, corruption is born." "Caesar is no different from God; & Caesar is not God & God is not Caesar; hence the separation of Church & State" at iba pang kapalpakan na itunuro sa iyo ng mga taga Ateneo University. Mabuti pa halo-halo may sahog kaysa mga sinabi mo. As I've underscored, even a good professor can't cure your intellectual fanaticism or vodooism. Magtanim ka na lang ng kamonte nga binalitungeg sa imong buot. Ha, he, hi, ho, hu.

Name: Edward
City/State/Country: Las Vegas
IP Address: 98.160.174.84

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TO: 7gtg, the world is laughing at you, because you people are funny. This bus incident, Miss Philippines could have done a better job, Pokwan could have done a better job, next time send in some Filipino bar girls, they could have done a better job. The PI is a JOKE, your country is best known for housegirls and bargirls, you people who throw trash and garbage everywhere, you piss everywhere, you can see the air it's so dirty, traffic is the worst, your men are lazy and drunks, you make 7, 8 babies with no way to support them. 7gtg your a joke and a fool, but I will give you this, you were smart enough to leave that Shi-hole. Stay thirsty my friend!

Name: Edward
City/State/Country: Las Vegas
IP Address: 98.160.174.84

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Can anyone tell me what happened to RR from Wowowee. You people, you replace RR with the president's fat sister. You people just cannot do anything right, you operate buses that have no brakes and than the bus falls down a mountain, captains of ships who can't read a weather report and than sink in a storm, build nuke plants that don't work, elect a man as president who cannot be found during a emergency, listen let's start simple to fix things, teach all the Filipino men what a toilet looks like and have than start peeing in it instead of on walls and sidewalks, that's step one, tomorrow I help with another suggestion. Ed.

Name: Rolaz
City/State/Country: Pilipinas
IP Address: 112.198.79.67

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7GTG: Thanks for your comments, I suggest you read this Article - “CHARACTERISTICS OF THE IMMATURE - BABIES VERSUS ADULTS” LINK

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